1 00:00:07,269 --> 00:00:05,510 joining us here today on console is dr 2 00:00:09,350 --> 00:00:07,279 sandra moore who is a spacewalk 3 00:00:11,509 --> 00:00:09,360 specialist thanks so much for joining us 4 00:00:12,789 --> 00:00:11,519 this morning my pleasure it's really a 5 00:00:14,870 --> 00:00:12,799 privilege to see you again because i 6 00:00:16,870 --> 00:00:14,880 just saw you last week at the neutral 7 00:00:18,150 --> 00:00:16,880 buoyancy lab where scott kelly and shel 8 00:00:19,670 --> 00:00:18,160 lindgren were 9 00:00:20,950 --> 00:00:19,680 working so thanks for joining us here 10 00:00:23,029 --> 00:00:20,960 today to tell us a little bit more about 11 00:00:25,670 --> 00:00:23,039 your job yeah no problem 12 00:00:28,150 --> 00:00:25,680 so the onboard crew is preparing for 13 00:00:29,429 --> 00:00:28,160 three spacewalks that are coming up 14 00:00:31,349 --> 00:00:29,439 we've been following along with some of 15 00:00:32,870 --> 00:00:31,359 their activities getting the suits ready 16 00:00:35,430 --> 00:00:32,880 uh can you tell us just a little bit 17 00:00:37,110 --> 00:00:35,440 about um how how the team approaches 18 00:00:39,270 --> 00:00:37,120 space station spacewalk training as 19 00:00:40,709 --> 00:00:39,280 compared to the shuttle era when you 20 00:00:42,790 --> 00:00:40,719 could really train with the crews right 21 00:00:44,630 --> 00:00:42,800 up into their launch but at this point 22 00:00:46,389 --> 00:00:44,640 you know you're you don't see the crews 23 00:00:48,150 --> 00:00:46,399 nearly as much and then sometimes many 24 00:00:50,310 --> 00:00:48,160 many months before they even launch yeah 25 00:00:52,150 --> 00:00:50,320 it's actually very different these days 26 00:00:54,709 --> 00:00:52,160 we used to train specifically with the 27 00:00:57,189 --> 00:00:54,719 eva team the the team 28 00:00:58,869 --> 00:00:57,199 they would have up to 10 mbl runs which 29 00:01:01,110 --> 00:00:58,879 are pool runs they'd actually practice 30 00:01:02,869 --> 00:01:01,120 end to end and they almost have that 31 00:01:05,429 --> 00:01:02,879 choreography memorized even if we were 32 00:01:07,030 --> 00:01:05,439 doing several evas this time it's much 33 00:01:07,990 --> 00:01:07,040 different you have one team that follows 34 00:01:09,750 --> 00:01:08,000 the crew 35 00:01:11,910 --> 00:01:09,760 and you have different teams that follow 36 00:01:13,510 --> 00:01:11,920 planned evas so you actually have a 37 00:01:16,469 --> 00:01:13,520 significant portion of the office so 38 00:01:18,390 --> 00:01:16,479 this next series they have 39 00:01:19,670 --> 00:01:18,400 both butch and crew had different eva 40 00:01:21,670 --> 00:01:19,680 training teams because they're on 41 00:01:23,670 --> 00:01:21,680 different increments and then they have 42 00:01:25,749 --> 00:01:23,680 several different eba teams that follow 43 00:01:28,310 --> 00:01:25,759 each of the different evas 44 00:01:30,310 --> 00:01:28,320 so they have a series of 10 ebas that 45 00:01:32,710 --> 00:01:30,320 they train with their trainers with the 46 00:01:34,789 --> 00:01:32,720 first seven are planned for contingency 47 00:01:36,710 --> 00:01:34,799 type evas so they'll see all those 48 00:01:39,350 --> 00:01:36,720 unique interfaces and they develop a 49 00:01:41,990 --> 00:01:39,360 basic skill set that we ask them to pull 50 00:01:44,710 --> 00:01:42,000 from for any eva they would do the last 51 00:01:46,550 --> 00:01:44,720 three evas are up to the training team 52 00:01:48,069 --> 00:01:46,560 to determine what evas they might see 53 00:01:49,830 --> 00:01:48,079 and we try to show them any unique 54 00:01:52,389 --> 00:01:49,840 interface they haven't seen 55 00:01:54,630 --> 00:01:52,399 so specifically for these evas coming up 56 00:01:56,789 --> 00:01:54,640 the first one is a deployment of a 57 00:01:58,550 --> 00:01:56,799 series of lots of lots of cables we're 58 00:02:00,550 --> 00:01:58,560 basically rewiring station for the 59 00:02:02,149 --> 00:02:00,560 international docking adapter 60 00:02:04,789 --> 00:02:02,159 and that's a pretty unique and very very 61 00:02:07,030 --> 00:02:04,799 tough eva one to visualize and the other 62 00:02:08,710 --> 00:02:07,040 two execute just based on hand strength 63 00:02:11,190 --> 00:02:08,720 and so they were able to practice that i 64 00:02:13,110 --> 00:02:11,200 think twice so still very different than 65 00:02:14,949 --> 00:02:13,120 shuttle days 66 00:02:17,589 --> 00:02:14,959 one other unique aspect is when you've 67 00:02:20,070 --> 00:02:17,599 got mixed crews like this butch launched 68 00:02:22,470 --> 00:02:20,080 months before terry so how do you guys 69 00:02:23,589 --> 00:02:22,480 approach that you know that phase of 70 00:02:25,350 --> 00:02:23,599 when they're not going to have as many 71 00:02:26,470 --> 00:02:25,360 opportunities to train together but yet 72 00:02:28,869 --> 00:02:26,480 on orbit they will be doing this 73 00:02:29,670 --> 00:02:28,879 spacewalk together so what we try to do 74 00:02:31,990 --> 00:02:29,680 is 75 00:02:34,070 --> 00:02:32,000 on either side of the increments if they 76 00:02:36,630 --> 00:02:34,080 could go out the door with each other we 77 00:02:38,550 --> 00:02:36,640 do try to train at least one if not two 78 00:02:40,630 --> 00:02:38,560 runs with them just so they can practice 79 00:02:42,630 --> 00:02:40,640 their teamwork and their their ability 80 00:02:43,990 --> 00:02:42,640 to to talk to one another and see how 81 00:02:44,949 --> 00:02:44,000 each other works everybody's a little 82 00:02:46,949 --> 00:02:44,959 different 83 00:02:49,110 --> 00:02:46,959 and so i know butch and terry actually 84 00:02:51,190 --> 00:02:49,120 practiced i think twice this first dva 85 00:02:53,750 --> 00:02:51,200 together and they were able to 86 00:02:56,309 --> 00:02:53,760 work on on their cadence and and their 87 00:02:57,830 --> 00:02:56,319 timing together as a team 88 00:03:00,149 --> 00:02:57,840 so you talked a little bit about the 89 00:03:01,910 --> 00:03:00,159 different approach of contingency evas 90 00:03:04,550 --> 00:03:01,920 and what's called planned evas which 91 00:03:06,790 --> 00:03:04,560 this one would fall into that category 92 00:03:08,149 --> 00:03:06,800 what are the kind of the challenges of 93 00:03:10,149 --> 00:03:08,159 trying to prepare for this type of 94 00:03:11,589 --> 00:03:10,159 spacewalk especially when the timing 95 00:03:13,030 --> 00:03:11,599 gets postponed which we've seen with 96 00:03:15,030 --> 00:03:13,040 this one as well 97 00:03:16,790 --> 00:03:15,040 yeah and the challenges come with one 98 00:03:18,630 --> 00:03:16,800 who's going to go out the door for you 99 00:03:21,910 --> 00:03:18,640 and every crew is a little different and 100 00:03:24,869 --> 00:03:21,920 they all have different types of 101 00:03:26,630 --> 00:03:24,879 preferences if you will and so we try to 102 00:03:28,470 --> 00:03:26,640 write the procedures fairly generically 103 00:03:29,830 --> 00:03:28,480 but we do fine-tune them 104 00:03:31,430 --> 00:03:29,840 for the crew as they go out the door 105 00:03:33,509 --> 00:03:31,440 where they wear their tethers how they 106 00:03:35,589 --> 00:03:33,519 like to carry their tools and so we 107 00:03:37,990 --> 00:03:35,599 worked closely with the training teams 108 00:03:39,190 --> 00:03:38,000 again butch and and terry had different 109 00:03:40,550 --> 00:03:39,200 training teams but we worked very 110 00:03:43,430 --> 00:03:40,560 closely with them as we're writing the 111 00:03:47,990 --> 00:03:46,309 in addition to that we they like they 112 00:03:50,229 --> 00:03:48,000 pull from that basic skill set and so we 113 00:03:52,710 --> 00:03:50,239 do try to make it a generic universal 114 00:03:55,830 --> 00:03:52,720 skill set that anyone that has gone 115 00:03:57,910 --> 00:03:55,840 through our our training can can do or 116 00:03:59,589 --> 00:03:57,920 execute that eva so it gives us 117 00:04:02,390 --> 00:03:59,599 confidence that anyone we have up there 118 00:04:04,070 --> 00:04:02,400 can do that no it's a great approach 119 00:04:06,949 --> 00:04:04,080 also what are the tools that you have on 120 00:04:08,070 --> 00:04:06,959 orbit for a crew to be able to refresh 121 00:04:09,429 --> 00:04:08,080 and 122 00:04:11,270 --> 00:04:09,439 you know remain proficient for those 123 00:04:12,550 --> 00:04:11,280 spacewalks when they come so what we do 124 00:04:14,869 --> 00:04:12,560 is we actually send up the written 125 00:04:16,390 --> 00:04:14,879 procedures that are ground ivy who's the 126 00:04:18,469 --> 00:04:16,400 astronaut who will talk to them through 127 00:04:20,150 --> 00:04:18,479 the eva and guide them 128 00:04:22,710 --> 00:04:20,160 as we'll read so basically we call it a 129 00:04:25,350 --> 00:04:22,720 checklist we also send up a briefing 130 00:04:27,430 --> 00:04:25,360 package that has pictures and 131 00:04:29,590 --> 00:04:27,440 shots of all the different hardware and 132 00:04:31,510 --> 00:04:29,600 places on orbit they're going to see and 133 00:04:34,070 --> 00:04:31,520 translate and then they have a few 134 00:04:36,070 --> 00:04:34,080 special tools one we call doug which is 135 00:04:38,550 --> 00:04:36,080 a computer program they can fly through 136 00:04:40,310 --> 00:04:38,560 station and position themselves so they 137 00:04:42,469 --> 00:04:40,320 can see it electronically and they can 138 00:04:44,469 --> 00:04:42,479 actually convert that into an on-orbit 139 00:04:46,710 --> 00:04:44,479 vr trainer which is where they actually 140 00:04:48,870 --> 00:04:46,720 can wear the laptop on the head it has a 141 00:04:51,350 --> 00:04:48,880 special series of goggles that lets them 142 00:04:53,030 --> 00:04:51,360 see what they're doing in an animated 143 00:04:55,110 --> 00:04:53,040 environment but in 3d so they can 144 00:04:57,510 --> 00:04:55,120 actually walk the eva so it's pretty 145 00:05:00,230 --> 00:04:57,520 incredible 146 00:05:01,510 --> 00:05:00,240 let's see one last question um 147 00:05:03,029 --> 00:05:01,520 what are they doing right now i know 148 00:05:04,070 --> 00:05:03,039 like i said we've been following along a 149 00:05:06,070 --> 00:05:04,080 little bit with some of the suit 150 00:05:07,909 --> 00:05:06,080 preparations they've started but 151 00:05:09,510 --> 00:05:07,919 talk us through the countdown to this 152 00:05:11,029 --> 00:05:09,520 first spacewalk coming up on the 20th 153 00:05:12,150 --> 00:05:11,039 can you tell us what types of activities 154 00:05:14,870 --> 00:05:12,160 they'll still be doing to prepare for 155 00:05:16,870 --> 00:05:14,880 that yeah so it does ramp up quite a bit 156 00:05:18,390 --> 00:05:16,880 they have to prep the suits 157 00:05:20,950 --> 00:05:18,400 to make sure they're ready to go so they 158 00:05:23,749 --> 00:05:20,960 go through a series of flushes and tests 159 00:05:25,510 --> 00:05:23,759 and check out something called an ofe 160 00:05:27,590 --> 00:05:25,520 where they actually make the suit fit 161 00:05:29,430 --> 00:05:27,600 their body and so it's comfortable when 162 00:05:30,790 --> 00:05:29,440 they go out the door and since they 163 00:05:32,950 --> 00:05:30,800 haven't tried it on orbit they actually 164 00:05:35,189 --> 00:05:32,960 grow a little bit so make sure that it 165 00:05:37,430 --> 00:05:35,199 accounts for any growth they've had on 166 00:05:39,670 --> 00:05:37,440 orbit then they prepare on the on the 167 00:05:41,029 --> 00:05:39,680 task side by prepping their tools so 168 00:05:43,270 --> 00:05:41,039 they gather all the tools needed for 169 00:05:46,310 --> 00:05:43,280 each va and pack them specifically as 170 00:05:48,469 --> 00:05:46,320 needed in the bags to minimize any extra 171 00:05:49,909 --> 00:05:48,479 work they would have to do outside 172 00:05:51,749 --> 00:05:49,919 and then they're studying and they're 173 00:05:53,189 --> 00:05:51,759 studying that that procedure and how it 174 00:05:54,710 --> 00:05:53,199 might have changed since they did it 175 00:05:56,550 --> 00:05:54,720 once or twice it's probably been about 176 00:05:57,990 --> 00:05:56,560 six months maybe even eight since 177 00:05:59,830 --> 00:05:58,000 they've seen it 178 00:06:01,670 --> 00:05:59,840 just to make sure they remember how they 179 00:06:03,189 --> 00:06:01,680 how they did it in the pool 180 00:06:04,150 --> 00:06:03,199 well it sounds like there's just a lot 181 00:06:06,629 --> 00:06:04,160 of different 182 00:06:08,309 --> 00:06:06,639 resources available and to prepare all 183 00:06:10,550 --> 00:06:08,319 the spacewalkers and the team itself for 184 00:06:12,309 --> 00:06:10,560 the eva so thanks so much for joining us 185 00:06:14,390 --> 00:06:12,319 today and and sharing a little bit with 186 00:06:16,150 --> 00:06:14,400 us about your job and how the team 187 00:06:18,550 --> 00:06:16,160 supports our astronauts for the 188 00:06:20,390 --> 00:06:18,560 spacewalks no problem my pleasure 189 00:06:22,070 --> 00:06:20,400 again that was dr sandra moore the 190 00:06:23,189 --> 00:06:22,080 spacewalk specialist here as part of the